so, there is a bit of a fight going on in our hall between our pioneer sisters and our magazine servant.
since the new magazines are boxed with two issues together, there is a bit of work to be done separating them.
our magazine servant stacked them on the counter as usual, right out of the box.
why on earth are they one inside the other anyway? Are they stapled or have they saved money by deleting that too?
good lord! It's like a comedy of errors up the back of the kingdom hall... are these sisters so subserviant they can't seperate the magazines and need a male to do it?
sad, so very, very sad
oz
so far, available in english only... i guess there is a lead time for the interpreters.... this presents an opportunity for those who attend non-english congregations to ask their jw friends important questions on this subject, have them research the wt cd and then present this new light as a "possibility".... for example, you can ask them questions like:.
what would you say if i told you that the governing body no longer represents the annointed (a.k.a the fds)?what would you say if i told you that charles taze russell is no longer considered a part of the faithful & discreet slave?what would you say if i told you that, even though the publications say the fds started in 33, they have only been around for 94 years?i'm pretty sure you will be viewed as an apostate... until this news on the annual meeting shows up in their language.
just a thought.... .
Simple strategy
By only mentioning it in english, the west (in decline) get to jibber about it and maybe they lose a few. Most drink the koolaid.
By the time it get to say, africa (on the way up) it will be a case of "oh, yeah, thats old news..." fewer loses.
Canny bastards me thinks, know better than to make a global deal out of changes
oz
random discussion today ended up in my wife mentioning when she saw halley's comet (1986?
) and all of a sudden i had a total recall moment!.
when it came by, rather than make the effort to watch it, i flippantly said "nah, i'll see it next time!".
Random discussion today ended up in my wife mentioning when she saw halley's comet (1986?) and all of a sudden i had a total recall moment!
When it came by, rather than make the effort to watch it, i flippantly said "nah, i'll see it next time!"
bloody religion! Made me miss a once in a lifetime event!
I have to actually make 100 if i am to see it 'next time'
oz
"thus, it is evident that those who passed away from the generation of 1914..... never passed away.
and so, brothers, we have proven that god's prophetic word is true...".
anyone want to contribute?
Yep, you gave em ideas...
can see it now:
Watchtower Oct 1 2014
They did not pass away.
2 Many opposers of Jehovah's mighty nation have been pointing to the year 2014 and previous statements made by the faithful and discreet slave through the pages of the Watchtower and claiming that false prohecies were uttered. While it is true that the majority of those who accepted jehovah's invitation to be his worshipers from the early part of the 20th century had fallen asleep in death during the 1980s, it is not true to say they "passed away'' for they are yet very much alive in the heavens. The greek word ?πνο περ?οδο often rendered as 'sleep period' or death state' can also be translated as 'in a blink of an eye' when we are able to apply it to those in jehovahs favour at the time of their last earthly breath.
Evidently, this translation better fits the facts surrounding the glorious transformation from one state of existance [human] to another [spirit] in that it occured in the 'blink of an eye'. So we can confidently say that those old time servants of the most high God did not pass away at all and that you faithful servants of Jehovah can confidently defend any accusations.
It is indeed further evidence of the ever unfolding light of truth from the Governing Body that they are able, with the Nethinim class, to dig deeper into long hidden meanings in the ancient greek texts and shine light in the last days of the last days.
OZ
i was thinking about some interracial jw couples that chose each other because they do not have alot of choices like finding someone in their own race in the religion, i have been seeing alot more jw interracial couples lately.
have you noticed them in your area?
don't get me wrong.
uhh don't the JWs now have an interracial couple GB member?
Geoffrey and Rae...at least according to the picture...
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/228309/1/Governing-body-member-engaged-Again
i know about johnathan edwards and william miller being some of the forerunners of the wtbts.
how about much earlier in time?
was there a group during the middle ages or even earlier that preached something similar to the wt doctrine?
And all that preceeds my post only reinforces my belief that the bible is not the inspired word of any god, and is certainly the concoction of men who sought to enslave the world one brain at a time.
They did a damn good job of it too...The beginners of the work would be suitably impressed i imagine...
Oz
my wife spent all morning long preparing this super thanksgiving banquet.
with a huge turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy, cranberry sauce.
and greenbeen salad, pie and icecream.. yummy!.
The real test for the WTBTS would come if they announced from the platform exactly how it works with the RBC...
whether it is legal is one thing, whether it is moral is a completely different thing.
Oz
i'm sure someone here has experienced this before.
please help me help my son.
his wife of 15 months told him last night that she needs her space, that what she wanted 1 year ago isn't the same as what she wants now.
I beleive everyone has the right to change their mind, to move on.
My wife and I made a pact way back when we were first serious, and it is an unspoken knowledge between us even now 6 years later, that if one of us ever becomes unhappy, or wants something else that they say so. We know this would be awful but honest, and the other is to give full blessing to the other. That does not mean there will be no tears or heartbreak either, it just means that sometimes the gig is up.
True love will let another go if it means that one will be happier.
The stay away while i 'sort it out' is a dead giveaway though. Not of another involved nessicarily. In my own case with marriage #1, i moved out to sort myself out, never went back and broke her heart, but there was no other woman involved.
Just be there for your son. As a well known song (Gilbert Osullivan) said "nothing worse than being in love with one who isnt"
all the best in helping your son
oz
wow.
i was surprised this week by calls from active jws complaining about the new magazine format, and more begging for money from the platform.. frankly i was surprized by this reaction since this is old news to jwn members.
i guess actually shuffling to the bookroom and grabbing the new "awake tracts" minus the inside cover forward ...awakened many sleepy, catatonic, bored jws who never read the things or go on the internet anyway.. any feedback from other areas?.
We always loved to see the improvements in the magazines...what a hype when they went full color! All the JWs were SO proud to carry them door to door, so maybe the downsize and formats seem like a cop out to them now, a shameful thing rather than the opposite.
Perhaps as well, with the demonization of the internet well planted in their minds, being told to go to the internet for more information might also be seen as a cop out...
I hope so anyway!
Oz
he's asking if i've read the first page of the new watchtower.. says page 8 admits and exposes the society's mistaken expectations.. says that both mags have been adjusted to reflect the understanding of generation.
asking if it is my position that witnesses have made claims to be inspired prophets.... and saying if it is, maybe *we* can consider together some examples in the bible of others who have had wrong expectations and have gone ahead of god's timetable and see how god handled that..
not a lot different to what they have said at other times when they feel the need to justify themselves.
just a load of generalized dribble about better to be ready than not and no harm done.
NO RESPECT at all for the bullshite they published to fool the public, and to comfort the rank and file over why they are still here.
oz
